He Built a Studio in His Backyard. Now Sri Lanka's Biggest Brands Book It | Sachith Perera

Sachith Perera is an IT project manager who built a photography and video studio in his parents' backyard during COVID — not because he was a creative, but because he was curious.

In this episode, Sachith breaks down how he applied the IT concept of minimal viable product to launching Creator Space Studios, survived Sri Lanka's economic crisis, and grew a 15x15 foot backyard space into a fully booked commercial studio working with some of Sri Lanka's biggest brands.

But the deeper story is about what made risk-taking possible — losing his father at 15, a mother who held everything together, and the support systems that taught him the worst thing that can happen is rarely as bad as the fear of it.

He also mentors young professionals, offers free studio time to emerging creators, and believes you should want the people you help to become better than you.

This is what creativity looks like when it lives inside a curious mind — not a paintbrush.

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📍 Recorded at Hatch.lk | Sri Lanka Series

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

When my dad passed away, which was when I was fifteen, I guess. Oh wow. So that's when I realized okay, I should do something. 'Cause now I should take more responsibilities and be a person that actually can do good and also do things that would take care of family, right? That's what got me thinking. Mom didn't let me feel all the pressure now as an adult. I know how tough it is to raise a child. The fear of failure wasn't there because they have someone to support me. I could say I'm a sort of like a creative person. That's it. Basically, I wanted to just test the idea. I mean, my line of work, we have something called the MVPs, which is sustainable viable product. That's the same thing I did. And started a small studio at the back of my parents' house. And I was getting booking, it wasn't much like biggest textile manufacturers in Sri Lanka who exports a lot. They installed the studio, they had booked the studio. Space wasn't enough. So that's when I knew okay, I need to expand this space. I mean, if ideas shouldn't be limited by the space, you somehow figure it out, and you can try to look things that are around you and figure out how to make something make-shift to overcome whatever issues that you're facing. I see that as a really nice thing about the creative people, which is they know how to work with what they have. They don't need a huge expensive set of equipment.

SPEAKER_01 1:26

They'll just whip out their iPhone and start creating.lk, one of the leading startup hubs in Sri Lanka. Because my goal was to be able to tell stories of unique creatives here who are crazy enough to think that they can actually solve problems. To be here at Hatch and be inspired in what I'm doing, and to be able to tell these stories and have this uh studio and opportunity, I'm super grateful to Hatch. I feel affirmed in my mission to highlight creatives, and when I saw individuals from startups like inviting their own friends to be on here, so I can highlight their stories in their unique way of thinking, every single one of them has so much uh insight to provide to anybody who's watching with anybody who's thinking that they're not good enough to do what they're doing. Seeing stories from doctors who have changed uh careers into running startups to journalists to doing this kind of things, like it gives me so much hope to be able to share this to others to say that like wherever you are at, if you're not passionate about what you're doing and you're stuck in your own bubble or whatever, find communities like Hatch because it is gonna be the best thing that you do for yourself because the community is absolutely amazing. Hatch, thank you so much for the support you provided. I can't wait to show you the amazing stories and the insights your own people are going to share with the world. Hi, welcome to the Create Vatican's podcast. My name is Sharan, and today we are at a hatch uh in Sri Lanka, a startup hub where creativity and technology is something that happens uh simultaneously and and they encourage it and two real problems um uh for humans in Sri Lanka and around the world. And today, uh without further ado, I have a very interesting creative who's gone through an interesting journey in life. Sachit, welcome to the podcast. Thanks for taking the time. Thanks for having me. So, Sachit, tell me about who you are and what you do, and let's go from there.

SPEAKER_02 3:41

Yeah, so me personally, like I'm I think when I was small, like I mean, career-wise, I'm working in IT, but I guess from a very young age, and with regards to this podcast, I I kind of like was thinking and gathering my thoughts about creativity. And I feel like like since I was small, I was into you know how technology works. I was interested in how things work in the background. So I can give you some examples. Like so when I was small, like I was seeing a lot of things, like mechanical things that are working. So I was very fascinated by those. So that's that's what I was thinking about, and I was uh like you know, picturing in mind how do these things work. So I mean I could say I'm a sort of like a creative person uh in that sense, and uh also I am married, I have a beautiful wife. She actually she should be the one in this podcast because she's the most creative out of person out of both of us. But yeah, yeah, so I grew up here in SL and we traveled a lot when I was small, so we got to like experience like my family got to experience like a lot of different culture and how people work, and also I'm I guess I'm a very people-oriented person. Okay. So yeah, I guess it's a very, you know, round the twist kind of a way to arrive at who I am. Yeah but I am a person who enjoys how to know how things work, and a person who actually likes to fix problems. You're very curious. Yes. And then you're also an entrepreneur. Yes. Yeah. Tell us about that. Yeah, so to give a little bit of background, like I work in IT, I work as a project manager, and my line of in my line of work I manage people and budgets and timelines. Those are the three things that I manage on a very s on a very simple note. So I also so to come into my entrepreneurship, like I like I mentioned earlier, like I am interested about how things work in the background. So that got that gets that got me into things like, you know, robotics and technical stuff, the so those kind of stuff. And I went to school in IT, doing, you know, learning about IT. So at that time I was thinking, uh, okay, we needed to we need to sort of uh you know be a programmer to be in IT. But I was heavily wrong. Like, you know, there are so many other things in IT that you can do technically, and no, you don't have to be a programmer necessarily to be in IT. That's what I tell to my men mentees and all so the all the undraduates. So in that line of work, I get to l meet a lot of people and interact with them. And I I wanted to like find uh sort of a I was looking at a business idea that would generate some side income for me. And I was thinking restaurants, okay, low margins, yeah, you know, high risk, yeah and very, very sort of like you know, it's very crowded. Then a couple of other businesses, and then I landed on this uh creator space studio. So that idea was to like also to satisfy that curious part of me, which is to see the creative process because you might see a video or a photo, but there's a huge whole load of things that happen in the background which really fascinates me. So that curious person in me started Creative Space Studios to allow other people to create. Wow. So, real quick, how long have you been how long has the creative space have been open? So basically, uh I wanted to just test the idea. So in my line of work, we have something called the MVPs, which is the most valuable, uh, sorry, minimal viable product. So that's in IT. So in in IT we in day in and day out, we educate customers on okay, we don't need to spend maybe hundred thousand dollars on a website. We can just start small and see how it goes and then sort of you know figure out what we need, what are the technologies we need. So that's the same thing I did. I practiced what I preached, I practiced what I preached and started a small studio at the back of my parents' house. It's at the back of the back garden backyard. So I started like a 15 by 15 foot small space. And you know, we I was getting bookings, it wasn't much, but I was getting bookings and then things started rolling into like the into like a mainstream kind of like I knew I hit that spot because this is back in 2021, by the way. This was during COVID. Yeah, it's all of that. So the big leaks guys, one of the biggest textile manufacturers in Sri Lanka who exports a lot. They came they saw the studio and they had booked the studio. Oh wow. And the space wasn't enough because they were doing like a commercial catalog shoot that's about to be sent out to US or somewhere. I can't speak about the shoot, but yeah, so that's when I knew okay, I need to expand this space. I mean, this is I ideas shouldn't be limited by the space. Right.

SPEAKER_00 9:09

We're so excited to share with you all the episodes that we filmed in Sri Lanka. We know a lot of you have been waiting, but we wanted to make sure that we did this really meaningfully because it really was an exciting time. When Sean first came to me and said he was gonna take the podcast to Sri Lanka, I honestly thought he was crazy.

SPEAKER_01 9:24

And so did I. I was like, is there any possibility we can fit this in? I want to try to bring the podcast in, get to know people and interview creative.

SPEAKER_00 9:34

So we expected to have just a few conversations, maybe a little sparks of inspiration here and there, but what happened was so much deeper than that. We met so many people that not only we you got to interview, but that also like came alongside us to help make these conversations happen.

SPEAKER_01 9:50

The crazy thing was this daring idea of going to a country, even though I'm from Sri Lanka. I hadn't been back for like seven years, and all I knew was some people from school that I went to and some on social media that I've been following, but didn't really have a concrete plan to make it happen. And some days we had six, seven episodes back-to-back recorded because people were waiting and you were kind of facilitating that, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:17

Yeah, so it felt really significant because not only was it that we were having like these raw and authentic conversations, but a lot of their stories resonated with Gerons. And so it just was really fascinating to see them speaking the same language and to see like just this commonality of creativity and identity and purpose coming out as the themes of these conversations.

SPEAKER_01 10:36

You must be wondering when this trip happened. It happened in September, and uh the goal was to get these episodes out by December of last year. Well, a lot of things happened, and I didn't want to diminish the work we put in and again the amazing gifts that we've had. So we decided to do something really cool, and we're gonna expose however many we can a week.

SPEAKER_00 10:58

So, LinkedIn, every single episode, you'll find a free PDF. It's actually a magazine that we developed. You can kind of think of it like if you go to a concert and you get like the souvenir of what happened behind the scenes and just about the different artists and all those things. We wanted to share with you not only about Tron's journey, but then help you connect with some of the guests that we interview in Sri Lanka and then invite you on your own creative odyssey.

SPEAKER_01 11:18

Yes, there's so much more that goes into or that fuels this podcast, which is this this mission to inspire people to create so that they can get to know themselves and connect with their innate child. So to see that we could bring that story out of Sri Lankan creatives, a wide diverse range of creatives was definitely a highlight.

SPEAKER_00 11:43

Our hope is that whether you're living in the States, you're living in Sri Lanka, or somewhere else around the world, you'll connect with someone's story within Sri Lanka and it might inspire you to continue on your own creative goddesses.

SPEAKER_01 11:54

The link to the PDF for the magazine is in the description, and please check it out. They're doing really cool things that I really think you should be checking out to see their journeys. So without further ado, let's get to the episode.

SPEAKER_02 12:08

So I expanded, and you know, there's there was like a lot of things, you know, that happened in Sri Lanka. Like we had like a whole economic crisis and COVID like struck again, and we had like a whole bunch of things that you know snowballed. So after all of that, I was able to somehow restart the studio and expand it. Now it's like 50 feet in length and still 15 feet foot wide, but same spot. Same spot. Expanded and with more equipment, it has it has more space now and it has like a garden space where you can like you know think creatively because that's one of the plus things that uh you know there are some act like mainstream actors in Sri Lanka who has come there and done workshops. So if you go onto a page, like they keep telling, okay, this is like a nice spot where they can like you know free up their mind and start creating. Otherwise, if you go to like another space, what happens is you're in a building, right? Yeah. But then what happens is your thoughts are like all over the place and you'll feel you feel like you're stuck in a box. Right. But I want to like show the sky where you know the possibilities are endless, and you can just feel free and then go back inside and start creating. So that's part of the space. And yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:26

Wow. So what are some challenges you faced? I mean, you kind of talked about one thing, but uh any other challenges you faced, mistakes you made that you learned from in this process?

SPEAKER_02 13:39

Yeah, there are many. I think a lot of the mistakes, like it's kind of like you know, you get to like for example, initially I started the small space. The biggest mistake I made was like not maybe thinking about how big it could be. I limited myself to thinking that you know this is enough. But then I should have like thought a little bit bigger and then you know, expand you know, started the space a little bit bigger, then it would have been much easier. That's one thing. Another thing is like not consulting experts who are experts in certain fields when constructing. So there were like there are some like limitations in terms of like the ceiling height. So those kind of things I've I learned the hard way. So those I learned. Yeah, and other challenges I don't see any of the challenges. It's basically, I mean, when I started there wasn't much competition, now there's more competition. But I see that as a good thing because there's more opportunities for creators, especially young people. Right. So we so myself I believe like you know, the undergraduates they should be going in the going focusing more on entrepreneurship and creative side than going down a defined path. So I offer discounts for them to encourage them to come and create in my space. So and I also like you know support them in like sometimes for free, like just out of my willingness to help them. So those kind of things through those kind of things I have seen there are of course some bad actors, but all those fade away because of the genuine behaviors of some people. So that inspires you to you know keep doing what you're doing and do good, do more good.

SPEAKER_01 15:31

So you went from working with people in IT to working with people, also working with people, creative people. What are some of the positives and negatives you've seen in creative people since it's a podcast about creative people?

SPEAKER_02 15:45

Yeah. So in IT, especially in the kind of companies I have worked in, I have seen the people that come to work with me, especially the youngsters, they come through some sort of an industry and some sort of like uh academic, more or less, and they are a bit more structured the in the way I have seen it. It doesn't mean like it's a good thing and the other thing is bad, it's not like a black and white situation. But what I have noticed is like it's easy to get them into a certain process and easy to guide them, that kind of a thing. But that sort of again fits you into a certain box, but then you know, it it's not like pros and cons of each industry. So there's that thought, and I have seen like in the creative industry it's more of more or less like more fires to put out, like you don't know what to expect. I mean it's there in IT as well, but then it's it happens more frequently in the creative industry. I mean you come to a like for a shoot, then you figure out okay, we need this kind of colour and we don't have that. And you know, we need this kind of a light, we don't have that. What do we do to like you know work around this? Because it's a challenge, right? So you somehow figure it out, and then the the amazing part is you can just look around and try to look at the things that are around you and figure out how to make something like makeshift to you know overcome whatever the issue that you're facing. So I see that as a really nice thing about the creative people, which is they know how to work with what they have. So they don't need like a huge expensive set of equipment, they'll just whip up their iPhone and start creating, right? Which is amazing, right? I've seen like a lot of creators who come to the studio as well. They put some I'm just out of habit, I'm asking, okay, where's the photographer? Where are the videographer? They're like, okay, we are the we are the so they just come and start, you know, creating through the iPhone, which is the the one of the most powerful things in this generation, yeah, which is you have the power to change the word in your pocket, yeah, which a lot of people don't realize.

SPEAKER_01 18:01

Right. Have you always I mean starting a creative studio, like I think it's kind of a risky thing sometimes, right? Like are you a person who takes risks?

SPEAKER_02 18:11

Yeah, definitely. So one of the risks I took was in my career when I was kicking off my career, so everyone was, you know, it came, okay, we did our academics and we are done, and now we have to find internships. So everyone chose like the you know big companies, okay, big pay, and you know, fancy officers, all that. I was like, okay, I don't want to like, you know, be full-on corporate. I just wanna like, because I'm young, right? I can try things out. I was by the way, if kids are listening, don't take this advice. This is purely my perspective, and it worked out for me. But what I did was something completely different. I went to a startup. Like nobody in my nobody actually in my batch went to a startup. I was the only one. But the best part, it turned out to be really good because in that startup I know that I wasn't able to cover a lot of things, but then I was able to also cover a lot of things, which is you know, in a startup, you know, it's all hands-on. All hands-on, it's like chaos, right? Yeah, there's no process, like you have to figure things out along the in your journey and things don't work. Like you go to an event, like you the system that you made, you spent months on doesn't work. You like figure something out quickly, and then you press the button, it doesn't work. So in front of maybe let's say 500-600 people in events, sometimes like this just stops working. So it's fun though. And then the other thing is, I mean, at the time you're like, you know, cheating your pants, but right, right. But you know, you realize okay, it's part of being human. There are mistakes, there some things don't turn out the way you want. But I mean, at the end of the day, it just works out. And yeah, that that experience, whole experience was really good for me. And that risk I took, um, still I have like a lot of learnings that I have uh extracted from that place. And those things that I have learned, I still apply. That's the risk in terms of my career, in terms of the studio. Like I had no idea how I mean I had like a camera and stuff. Like I I don't like to work commercially, but I do as I do photography and videography as a hobby. Okay. So I knew how to do that, but that's about it. That I didn't know anything else. I just started the studio. I was like, okay, should there be a place for people to come and create? So that's what I just had from that single thought. I started it. And I didn't know whether it's gonna it was gonna work out or not. I mean, I haven't seen any other studios at the time in 2021, especially. Now there are, but back in the day there wasn't much. So but it worked out and we have worked with we have it paid off because we have recurring customers like every month, every weekend is basically booked. Every weekday we are booked to a certain level. And also we have recurring recurring customers like big big brands in Sri Lanka, and we have also shot for commercial stuff for you know foreign brands as well. Wow, which is really amazing. Seriously.

SPEAKER_01 21:19

I mean, first of all, congratulations. Thank you. That's to be able to be at a spot to say those things. Something that you started off as a risky thing, like I think it's a remarkable thing. So I mean, first of all, I why do you say like if the young youngsters don't follow that idea? I'm curious.

SPEAKER_02 21:38

It's like I have seen two kinds of people when I mentor. One is people who follow the exact thing that you do, and two, some people like to do their own path, take their own path. So what I feel like is people, especially youngsters, should strive to be the second type of personalist tribe. Because you shouldn't look at a person. And say okay, that person's uh social uh upbringing and their environment, uh, their monetary situation and their level of intelligence uh and their ability to uh work on a certain field is uh unique to them. So you shouldn't really follow that. What you should do instead is you know do your own analysis and find out what are the things you are passionate about. You because you have to f like figure out whether this is something I should be doing for the next couple of years, or will I get bored doing it? So that's the question you should ask yourself all the time. I mean, if it if there's no passion in it, you shouldn't do it because it's never gonna do any good to anyone. Yeah. I have seen like a lot of people just doing things for the sake of doing, and then but that does say say burn a lot of people around them, which is not good. And especially youngsters at a when they are coming from a very young age, they need to like, you know, try things and figure things out. Like for example, when I was young, I didn't know how like I saw things like breaking in in the house, and I would like go and fix them. And my parents would be like, Okay, you're so smart, like you can do this. And they would try to like buy a certain appliance, but I would fix it on my own. And then I when I don't break my toys, but some when they do, what I do is I have you seen Toy Story? Yeah. So you see the kid called Sid who breaks toys and then fixes in some other haphazard way. So I just like take all the broken toys and then combine them into like something else. So I had like an excavator that broke down. I took the circuit board and then fixed it onto a monkey or something, and then it's like at the top part is like a monkey and the bottom part is like an excavator. Yeah, like the original transformers in your own way. Yeah, exactly. And then that was fun. And I had like learned like okay, put switches so I could like change the direction of the robot. And then when I grew up, we actually in uni we participated in like robotics events, so we would make that was like a whole another experience. Like you see people, like there are certain parameters you have to play by, right? And then you figure out okay, when you actually go to the event, like things are completely different. So you have to adjust your robot to, you know, those situations. So I, you know, explain a lot, but then long story short, is you shouldn't take youngsters shouldn't take a certain path just because someone else tells you. You have to define your own path and life.

SPEAKER_01 24:36

Right. That's actually good advice. And that's I think it's also important for them to understand themselves too. Right. Am I the type of person? Not that say any I think anybody could do entre anybody can do entrepreneurship. But I think what I'm understanding from making a lot of mistakes myself is once you know what your strengths and weaknesses are and how you function and how you learn and grow based on those, then make those decisions. Not like you said, don't just willy-nilly follow whatever somebody else did, know yourself. That way it's a little safe, but then you can take risks on all those kind of things. And I think it's fair it's safe to fail say that like you have you failed in anything in life?

SPEAKER_02 25:24

Yeah, a lot of times. Like, yeah, so many times. I mean, um, especially like I am not a very academic person, so when Really, yeah. So believe it or not, but I usually study like even the last day or something. I I just say play around and when I was young, I used to like play video games all the time, so I would not study much, but then I study just before the exam. And sometimes I would fail in exams. Yeah. So which you know, then the parents are like, you know, this guy's not gonna go anywhere, but then somehow it worked out. But that's about academics, and then yeah, in life too, right? Sometimes like you have the highs and you have the lows. Yeah. So especially during COVID times, that was like really tough. So there were so in COVID times, like we had a bit of an issue with where I was working, like we had a bit of a restructure going on. So we had to like sort of find different alternative employment, those kind of things happen. So I mean, at the time it was really tough, but then I overcame and you know, there's a saying, right? Things happen for a reason. So that's what I realized. Like you may think that things happen, the worst things are happening to you all the time, but then what you also have to realize is those things are happening for a reason. It's because some may you have to fail in order to realize what's best for you. Just like in you know, uh fields like machine learning, right? So you they what they do is like they have like a robot and it'll make the sorry the algorithm and it'll make it fail like a thousand times. And then that's how you figure out the right path. Right. So yeah, same way.

SPEAKER_01 27:08

Sorry, I lost my channel. Being a Sri Lankan, I think one of the things that have made me scared to try is fear of failure. And also it's because I remember hearing people like talk negative, like it always happens to me, right? Like all the negative, like Matamaywin and all that stuff. And how come you didn't fall into that trap? And w what allowed you not to fall into that trap?

SPEAKER_02 27:41

Yeah, I believe it was I guess luck. Because luck had a part to play in it, because so when I was young, I didn't have any clue like what I was gonna do in my future. Okay. Because I was I was a bit pampered. I'm the only child. So my parents would like I told you, like when I was young, like we would travel and all that. So what made me realize that you know I should do start doing something is when my dad passed away, which was when I was fifteen, I guess. Oh wow. So that's when I sort of like realized, okay, I should do something. Because I sh now I should like take more responsibilities and you know be a person that, you know, actually can you know do good and also do things that would take care of the family, right? So that's what got me thinking. But then still, like, you know, after a couple of years you again your youthfulness comes up and then but still my mom didn't like let me feel all the pressure. Now as an adult, I know like how tough it is to like uh raise a you know child. I don't have children, but then I know how tough it is to like live. And I couldn't imag I can't even imagine like how must how much she must have gone through like raise me up and also pay for my uh tuition and my studies and let me graduate and also buy the stuff and take me off for dinner and all that. So the I actually it's kind of like my stupidity, which is like not like you know, the fear of failure wasn't there because there was someone to support me. The support system was there. Right. Like my dad before when my dad was there, like they both of them would support me. And this is when I had no clue what I was supposed to do. But then I after he passed away, I had like a certain type of picture in my head, like this, I should go for technology. So that's then my mom supported me. So then that support system really helped me. And now my wife helps me a lot, so she's my support system, so she helps me. So whenever I fail, I know okay, there is someone to, you know, get me back up again. So because of that, I don't fear a lot of things. Like I would take the risks and then go for it because I know that if I don't do it, sometimes there are challenges like you know, financially, it's like in Sri Lanka, it's really tough to get things done. And there's always like hundred hurdles to do something, yeah. Then abroad. So, but still, if we what I realized is like when I'm doing things here that have built uh certain resilience in me. So I'm able to like, okay, what you know, what's the worst that can happen? Like I can still go through it and then figure it out. So I guess to answer your question, the support system and the perseverance and also knowing that, you know, trying out the trying out and failing a lot has helped me to build that, you know, the what do you call that sort of uh supernatural kind of a power to, you know, not fear failing. You basically are mentees.

SPEAKER_01 30:50

Yes. What kind of areas do you have in what's like a common thing you be noticing that you have a lot of it?

SPEAKER_02 30:58

Yeah. So okay, whatever I do in the future, how never mind how busy I get. I should always help people. Questions about how to get in the IT industry. Maybe they are in the industry, they want to get a promotion. So some of the highlights that has happened was that the guy was stuck at a certain position in a company. You may be different from someone else, right? So this person's situation was that he was doubting too much. So I, you know, told him a couple of things and then he got double promoted within that same year. And now I think he's at a really good human and he's doing really well, which makes me really happy. Um so and there are I have heard stories about when I go for ship when I usually see in this citizen brain. Uh spending my energy, time, and money and effort. I still love to uh hear things uh when I go for these remix, like on some of the Juan. You see my uni and other UMIs, they have follow up follow the advice that I post on LinkedIn and you know some other platforms and talks and stuff. And they are applied that and they that has actually worked out well. So they come and talk I yeah, this worked out fix creation and some some of them I would say career wise, they are at a higher position, they are gone for a higher percent after listening to those things, which makes me very happy because it's never about compare which you should if you're teaching someone, you should teach that person to become better than you. Right. Not to keep them widowing.

SPEAKER_01 32:25

That's super inspiring to that you take time out of your way to do that. How are you able to do all of these things?

SPEAKER_02 32:34

I guess uh time management, uh also not time management because like uh everything is in a chaos mob, like some you should see my workstation, it's like a mess. So there's my wife's side, which is like super you know, with beautiful flowers and you know, nice uh setup, and there's my side with like documents and two laptops and uh you know dust and all. So but that's also how I operate. Like I I see like in my even even though in my line of work as a project manager I bring um process into chaos. I'm a very chaotic person myself. Like in my personal life, I I'm like uh I like stuff like lying here and there. That I guess that's like uh organized for me. Uh I don't know if it makes sense, but yeah, it makes sense for me. That so that really you need to other questions.

SPEAKER_01 33:25

True how do you find the time? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:29

So uh so when I uh have that uh you know safe space where I feel like you know I can work according to my way, then uh it makes things comfortable for me. So that even though I can't find time and so it's tough, I somehow put some extra effort and figure out uh what we can do. And also like uh time blocking. Uh really house. Like uh I try to, even though like I put a lot of things on my calendar, so that way like there are slots. So everything is time blocked, like you know, if it's even if it's like a Dina trip, everything is on a calendar. That way it's a little bit more organized digitally. Maybe not physically, but uh, you know, and that way, you know, there is a constant nagging person who's appointment. So I guess yeah, that works out. That's really cool.

SPEAKER_01 34:21

Um finally, uh anybody who's feeling stuck in wherever they're at, as a person who takes risks and different kinds of things you try, what is your um if you're feeling stuck, uh I think I explained it before as well.

SPEAKER_02 34:34

Uh you have to know that, you know, things somehow work out. So I've been their mind is gonna get you because if you keep thinking everything happens to me, it's not working, like you know, uh there are five or six things that are going wrong on top of each other. But what you have to realize is uh, you know, things happen for a reason and you are a human at the end are not meant for greater things, like uh you would just be like uh, you know, anyone else and just having leading a normal life. But things happen because you are meant to do bad things. So a lot of things, like for example, when I always uh had by ambition that in the next five years I should be this person, in the next ten years I should be this, and it's like very gentle use you get. But uh you get goals. Yeah. Sort of like a very high-level goal, be this person and and then yeah, at after those five years fast, you look back, you're like, oh shit, I just it's don't need to say shit. Yeah. But uh I just I just got it. And I didn't realize it. But then you start to look back in the past five years, okay. Um but led me to this uh situation that I'm in right now is because uh you took a certain decision and then you took you identify you uh to right uh companionship, you chose the right friends to associate, and also you um decided to follow your passions, which is really important. So I believe if you're feeling stuck, uh find a passion. It may be a hobby, maybe something else. Do it uh till you get sick of it.

SPEAKER_01 36:20

Thank you so much. Uh it's I I love how I mean you had a really pivotal moment with your father passing away, and then I love how you kind of just took that as an inspiration. And you're right, you made some mistakes later on, but I think I think what I'm uh hearing is like everybody has a pivotal moment in their lives, and and you made a decision at that point, and I think uh you're definitely lucky to have your mom and uh a wife as well. But then also it sounds like you find fulfillment one way or the other. If one is not doing it, you find another way too. And I think that that relentlessness, the resilience that you have is super inspiring. Uh thank you so much for being on the podcast and coming here. Uh, I knew you're very busy guy, obviously. Thank you for inviting it's all tied, tired of a time, which I couldn't interview. I couldn't interview, but um he uh I'm grateful for the people uh cool creatives. Uh I call you creative. So yeah, I appreciate you. Um, all I gotta say is that I if you're even feeling a slight inspired, um, there is that uh something in you trying to tell you, hey, I'm passionate about something else. You need to find that out. So I encourage you to create one way or the other, build something, draw whatever it might be, um, or break it into something and then put it together. Uh that's still uh a creativity at its code. So all I gotta say is till next time, keep creating, keep dreaming, and keep going on your own, here you are to say. See that?